Outoftheorg.
Why let him off so easily? Why pretend you don't know each other?
Start chatting with him, how's it going, I am good, etc. His reaction will tell you much.
i'm inactive since many years and i met an elder yesterday while i was driving in the city.
i made my stop, and an elder passed in front of me driving very slowly and made a very sad and disapproved face.
although it lasted about 3 seconds, i could feel exactly what he was thinking.. i felt as if i was a very bad boy not wanting to play knock knock on doors with them anymore.. for the inactive ones, do you often get that kind of disapproved look?.
Outoftheorg.
Why let him off so easily? Why pretend you don't know each other?
Start chatting with him, how's it going, I am good, etc. His reaction will tell you much.
This forum does not believe anything. The members of this forum all have their own beliefs, there are no requirements to be a member here.
Most here disagree with one or more teachings of the JWs.
Welcome to the forum, by the way. Feel free to ask more questions. That for me is one of the main appeals here, is that no question is out of bounds.
as the news item posted below reports, the uk government is considering the introduction of a new offence of corporate manslaughter.. .
i wonder how this will affect the minds of the watchtower legal dept' as they try to cover their masters 'corporate' asses once again.. .
while still holding out against any meaningful reform of their fatal 'no blood transfusion' policy they will now have to justify themselves as the originators, promoters and enforcers of said policy while simutaneously attempting to absolve themselves of any responsibility of the consequences thereof.. .
IW,
Your question proves in and of itself that many of the xJW lead posters have done a good job of hood winking the xJW community into thinking the JWs are not a religion but only an organization, this is false. Yes, the JWs are a religion. They are a religion in every sense of the word.
I never said they weren't. I asked what made you believe the Watchtower Society is a religous entity. The Watchtower society is merely a printing company that happens to print material used by Jehovah's Witnesses in their religion.
Your response proves in and of itself that many JWs and xJWs make no distinction between the religion known as Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Pennsylvania, etc etc.
Perhaps it has escaped your attention, but the religous and corporate ends have been moving further apart over the years. Most notably two years ago when the Governing Body resigned en masse as officers of the various corporations used by Jehovah's Witnesses. If the printing of the literature is outsourced at some point, as some predict, this separation will continue to grow.
as the news item posted below reports, the uk government is considering the introduction of a new offence of corporate manslaughter.. .
i wonder how this will affect the minds of the watchtower legal dept' as they try to cover their masters 'corporate' asses once again.. .
while still holding out against any meaningful reform of their fatal 'no blood transfusion' policy they will now have to justify themselves as the originators, promoters and enforcers of said policy while simutaneously attempting to absolve themselves of any responsibility of the consequences thereof.. .
IW,
we view the Watchtower only as a corporate entity, forgetting it is very much a religious entity as well and will under the law defend itself both on religious and corporate grounds.
Can you please give any evidence that the Watchtower Society is a religious entity? Any at all?
just got back from the three-day convention.
some have posted notes here already.
this was my first convention as an apostate as i have just awoken to the wts a couple of weeks ago.
Just to be totally anal, if you are referring to Max Larson, he is not a member of the GB. He is much more powerful than that, as he is the President of the WTB&TS of New York, and a member of the newly formed U.S. Branch committee. But since he is not of the anointed, he is not on the GB.
I keep up on Max cause I sat next to him for my one and only week spent at Bethel. At the time I did not realize just how big a player he was. He was at our DC last year.
my mother told me that she got a video from a sister that already went to the convention.
the entire program was recorded except for the prayers.
the sister said the society says we have to shut off the recording if the prayer is being given.
Brilliant summation, Francois!
june 20th marked a new beginning for me and yourschelbie.. we had a justice-of-the-peace wedding, with just a few family and friends on hand.
the judge did a marvelous job of capturing the essence of the meaning of marriage in just a few minutes.
(and we weren't reminded that serving a publishing company should be the #1 priority in life, lol.).
Congratulations you two!!!
i cam close to being disfellowshipped once,i was a servant so they only took awy all of my duties,and priv's.but i know a sister even dated her for 10 months who has been disfellowshipped 3 times.it was kind of funny because her 2 fleshly sisters got disfellow'ed around the same time and they all didnt seem to care and went to jamaica for 3 weeks.1 of them even came back pregnant.
My parents have both been DF'd and reinstated twice. Somehow I managed to be a good little JW, till I realized what a load of crap it all is.
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the canadian city of blainville believes it has the right to restrict how people express their religion in public in order to protect people's rights to privacy in their own homes.. jehovah's witnesses pay $100 for an annual permit for door-to-door visits of a non-commercial nature permit holders can canvass for only two months each year.. read the whole article on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
rado vleugel
Not to be a dub apologist, but I have a tough time agreeing with the idea of needing a permit to discuss religion. Its one of those "slippery slope" type issues, I think. This is not something else the government should have to be involved in.
But I do find this comment by the JW to be ironic:
"Freedoms have always been very, very important to us, especially the freedom of speech, not just religion."
I think we all know JWs could care less about the freedom of speech and religion, unless it gets in their way. There is no freedom of speech inside the Kingdom Hall.
Ok, I'm a dope too. Who is Keating? Google tells me nothing. Why are you posting this?